On Episode 16 of Metal Insider’s Newsroom w/ M.I Crowley, Crowley caught up with Ne Obliviscaris’s Daniel Presland & Benjamin Baret during this year’s 70000tons of Metal. The two questioned reality as well as working on their follow-up to 2017’s Urn, recruiting bassist Martino Garattoni, and more.

Watch the discussion below:

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